Planning Commission Minutes
November 3, 2004
The
meeting was called to order by Chairman Nicely, in the Council
Chambers at 7:00 p.m.
PRESENT:
Jodie Sherman, Dave Zondervan, Steve Maas, Craig Nicely,
Randy Hartgerink, and Virgil Leatherman (arrived at 8:15pm)
ABSENT:
Bob Poll
ALSO
PRESENT: Ken
Krombeen, City Manager
Dan
Johnson, Assistant City Manager
Debby Descheneau, Personnel Assistant
Motion
by Maas, seconded by Zondervan to approve the agenda as presented.
The motion passed unanimously.
Motion
by Sherman, seconded by Maas, to approve the minutes of the October
6, 2004 meeting as presented. The
motion passed unanimously.
NEW
BUSINESS
1.
Site Plan Review Borgman Ford/Mazda Building Addition
3150 28th Street
Dan Johnson reviewed the site plan for a proposed small addition to the Borgman
Ford/Mazda dealership at 3150 28th Street.
It was noted that the applicant is proposing the current
driveway be relocated further north in order to accommodate the
addition which is proposed to be in the middle of the current
driveway. This would
force the new driveway to be much closer to the driveway closest to
28th Street, which is not currently used as a vehicle
access point and is not currently owned by Borgman Ford.
Dan also noted that the tree calipers are 2 inches and the
minimum is typically 2.5.
Chairman
Nicely asked if there was anyone in the audience who would like to
speak to the issues of this Site Plan Review.
Corey
Broersma, RJM Design, came before the Planning Commission to answer
any question the Commissioners might have.
Chairman
Nicely asked if there were any questions or comments from Planning
Commissioners.
Steve
Maas asked if the curb cut on the northern most lot, not owned by
Borgman Ford, could be relocated.
Dan noted that it is possible to have that driveway move
further north if the minimum separation required by DPW could be
met.
Motion
by Zondervan, supported by Maas to approve the site plan review for
Borgman Ford/Mazda located at 3150 28th Street with the
following conditions 1) sidewalk along 28th Street should
be installed by property owner when determined necessary by the city
2) driveway along Ivanrest closest to 28th Street should
be closed when property is acquired by Borgman Ford/Mazda.
If the curb cut is ever used the Borgman driveway shall be
relocated so there is an acceptable separation between the two
driveways 3) tree calipers shall be 2.5 inches.
The motion passed unanimously.
2.
Use Consideration Rivertown Car Wash 2959 44th
Street
Steve
Maas asked to abstain from the discussion and vote on this request
as the applicant and owner of Stay Clean is a cousin and the
property is owned by his parents.
Motion
by Hartgerink, supported by Sherman for Steve Maas to abstain from
discussion and vote in the matter of Rivertown Car Wash 2959 44th
Street. The motion
passed unanimously.
Dan Johnson reviewed the request from Rivertown Car Wash to be considered as a
permitted use within the I-1, Restricted Industrial, zoning
district. The proposed
use of the site is a self-serve carwash/oil change/auto audio sale
establishment. This is
not a permitted use within this zoning district.
If the Planning Commission finds this to be a permitted use
the applicant would come before the Planning Commission again for
site plan review.
Chairman
Nicely asked if there was anyone in the audience who would like to
speak to the issues of this use consideration for Rivertown Car
Wash.
Rick
Postema, Richard Postema Architects, came before the Planning
Commission on behalf of the applicant to answer any questions the
Commissioners might have.
Chairman
Nicely asked if there were any questions or comments from Planning
Commissioners.
Randy
Hartgerink finds this to be a suitable use.
As did Dave Zondervan and Jodie Sherman.
Motion
by Sherman, supported by Hartgerink to approve the use of a car
wash/oil change/auto audio sales establishment, located at 2959 44th
Street, in the I-1, Restricted Industrial, zoning district.
The motion passed unanimously.
3.
Planned Unit Development Preliminary Plan Review
Wilson Residential & Professional NW corner of 44th
and Wilson
Dan Johnson reviewed the request for proposed offices with residential units above
them and a bank on the corner. It
was also noted that the site is less than the required five acres
for a PUD and that the applicant would have to get a waiver from the
Council for this minimum lot size requirement.
The applicant is also requesting an OS-2, Planned
Office/Service use for the property; the property is currently
Master Planned as an OS-1, Office/Service district.
Chairman
Nicely asked if there was anyone in the audience who would like to
speak to the issues of this Planned Unit Development.
John
Najar, S.J. Wisinski & Company, came before the Planning
Commission to state that he understands there has been a
considerable amount of debate relative to this piece of property.
He states he has taken in consideration the concerns of the
neighbors, as well as the owner, and feels he has developed a sound
site plan that would feature condominiums and office, a concept
being seen more and more in Grand Rapids.
The rear of the property would consist of access to
residential units and garage parking only, while the front would be
designated to accommodate office.
It was also stated that Mr. Najar is looking for an OS-1,
Office/Service designated, instead of the OS-2, Planned
Office/Service listed on his application.
Mr. Najar stated he is open to any comments or suggestions
the Commissioners may have.
Chairman
Nicely asked if there were any questions or comments from Planning
Commissioners.
Dave
Zondervan asked for clarification on this concept being presented in
Grand Rapids. Mr. Najar
presented the Commissioners with news articles that discussed three
different locations in Grand Rapids where similar concepts are under
construction. Zondervan
stated that he would need to give this concept some thought.
Randy
Hartgerink asked if the property across the street on the NE corner
of 44th and Wilson would also fit the Office/Service
zoning. Dan noted that
the NE corner is Master Planned as Moderate Density Residential.
Chairman
Nicely stated he would like to see the offices closer to the 44th/Wilson
intersection along with larger landscaping to the north and west
closer to residential.
Chairman
Nicely opened discussion to any neighbors present.
He noted that this is not an official public hearing but
would like to hear some brief comments from anyone who would like to
speak.
Judy
Bengtson, 4305 Wilson, noted she lives north of the proposed project
and is concerned with building heights.
She also suggested the idea of a group home.
Bruce
Poeder, 4103 44th, shares concerns of higher traffic
volumes, busier feel, and loss of natural space.
He stated he is 100% against this concept and would like to
see the area designated as residential.
Jack
Bengtson, 4305 Wilson, states he is concerned with where the curb
cuts would go and feels they should only be on 44th
Street. He is concerned
with the increased traffic to Wilson Avenue.
He would like to see the Planning Commission change the
Master Plan to residential.
Steve
Maas stated that he liked the residential component of the plan, but
has concerns with the suggested office and needs more time to think
it over. He noted that
there is a need for more senior housing in Grandville and suggested
that as an option for this site.
Randy
Hartgerink likes the proposal, it is a new trend that is happing
throughout Michigan, he just doesnt like the proposed
location.
Steve
Maas asked how high the proposed buildings would be.
Mr. Najar did not have specifics.
Jodi
Sherman asked how Commissioners felt about the size of the property.
Steve Maas said the size does not concern him too much; he is
flexible since the lot is only a half acre shy of the required size
for a PUD. Also with the
PUD Ordinance the Planning Commission can get very specific with
their language.
Dave
Zondervan asked if the applicant should go before the Council for a
waiver on the lot size. It
was determined that the lot size would not be the primary breaker of
the deal and that applicant go through the steps and have the
Planning Commission recommend something onto the Council.
Jodie
Sherman stated that she does like the concept and would like to see
it reworked.
Chairman
Nicely suggested that Mr. Najar rework the plans.
Given the comments by Commissioners and neighbors he suggests
a more residential feel.
4.
Planned Unit Development Plan Amendment Preliminary
Plan Review Parkway Place PUD
Dan Johnson reviewed the PUD comments for the Parkway Place PUD.
He noted that the applicant, Investment Property Associates
(IPA), would like to amend their PUD for a use not previously
discussed for the southern portion of its site.
The PUD has been previously approved for OS-1,
Office/Service, on the north end and C-1, Neighborhood Commercial,
on the south end. The
proposed use is a new vehicle dealership and would occupy the
majority of the southern portion of the site.
Dan also noted that the applicant is requesting to be allowed
a new car dealership and ground signs as permitted under the C-3,
Commercial Highway, zoning.
Chairman
Nicely stated that the firm involved in the design of the
dealership, Design Plus, is one that he is a partner in and that he
has not been directly involved in this project and feels he can
evaluate this plan with independent judgment.
He asked that he be allowed to comment and vote on
decision.
Motion
by Maas, supported by Sherman that Chairman Nicely be allowed to
participate in the discussion and voting of this project.
The motion passed unanimously. (Note:
Virgil Leatherman present at 8:15pm)
Chairman
Nicely asked if there was anyone in the audience who would like to
speak to the issues of this PUD amendment.
Denny
Cherette, IPA, came before the Planning Commission to discuss the
proposed plan. He noted
that there are no plans for a body shop on the site.
It was also mentioned that this plan is 34,000 square feet
vs. the 60,000 square feet allowed under C-1.
In terms of traffic flow, Mr. Cherette stated that this type
of use with fixed hours would have less of a traffic impact than
other permitted uses for the site such as a 24-hour drug store or
Family Video. The new
car dealership would operate Monday Saturday with a closing time
of 9:00pm and no Sunday hours.
Steve
Maas asked for clarification on traffic volumes.
In a letter to Denny Cherette dated November 2, 2004 Ed
Swanson, Swanson Consultant Services, stated that retail would
generate approximately 2,800 trips a day and a dealership would
generate 1,000 trips a day. Steve
thought that 1,000 trips a day was high.
Denny replied that the study went on the high end of volumes
for industry standards and that on a typical day the dealership
would see 70 customers a day and expect to sell a car to 1 of every
4th customer or approximately 200 cars a month.
Virgil
Leatherman was concerned with lighting and asked for clarification
on the type of lighting that would be used.
Denny replied that the light fixtures are down lighting that
will be dimmed by 10:00pm and off for the overnight hours. Virgil
Leatherman asked staff if they recalled what the maximum number of
trips allowed for proper traffic flow at the intersection of 44th
and Canal. Ken
replied that it is not so much measured by the number of cars as it
is the level of service. The
actual level of service was not readily available, but Ken assured
Commissioners that when the original proposals went through the
intersections were both looked at in terms of the traffic that would
have been generated and at that point the level of service was not
failing, but the conditions noted that if warranted a traffic signal
would have to be installed at the intersection of 44th
and Canal.
Dave
Zondervan likes the plan, feels it fits well in the location, and
that they would make good neighbors.
Harold
Zeigler spoke to the matter that Chrysler came to him and wanted to
develop an Alpha Point dealership (Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep) in the
Grand Rapids area, which would be 1 of 20 or 25 nationwide making it
a flagship dealership. Because
its a new concept in the West Michigan region it is very
important to Harold Zeigler, and Chrysler that the concept is done
right and with class.
Chairman
Nicely opened discussion to any neighbors present.
He noted that this is not an official public hearing but
would like to hear some brief comments from anyone who would like to
speak.
Brandon
Vanderhoof, 4215 44th Street, came before the Planning
Commission to state he would like to see the area zoned C-1.
He feels that a car dealership would not be as attractive as
a commercial building would be.
He is not necessarily concerned with traffic and feels that
if this concept was part of the original plan it would have been
denied.
Randy
Hartgerink asked if the landscaping as seen in the plans was already
in place. Denny replied
yes. Randy stated he is
impressed with the project, its a quality project, and he is in
favor of it.
Virgil
Leatherman asked how many parked cars would be on the site.
Denny replied that the inventory is scheduled for 250
cars.
Chairman
Nicely stated he would like more clarification on the traffic study
provided by Ed Swanson. Denny
replied he would have Mr. Swanson contact Dan Johnson.
The Planning Commissioners were unanimously in agreement to approve the
Plan Amendment to the Preliminary Plan Review for the Parkway Place
PUD and to set a Public Hearing for the December 1, 2004 Planning
Commission meeting for Final Plan Review.
5.
Zoning Ordinance Review
Ground
Signs for Office Lots
Dan Johnson reminded the Commissioners that this specific ordinance pertains to
businesses that have frontage on one major street and one local
street. Last month the
Commissioners asked staff to determine how many properties are
affected by this ordinance, Dan informed the Commissioners that
there are approximately eleven lots affected.
The Planning
Commissioners agreed that staff can bring draft language to the
Commissioners at the December 1, 2004 Planning Commission
meeting.
Open
Unoccupied Spaces
Two years ago the
Planning Commission added the term bay windows to Section 3-12 of
the Zoning Ordinance. The
added language has added more harm than help because there is not a
definition of what is considered a bay window.
Typically bay windows are not an occupied space they are more
of a decorative feature. However
it is becoming more and more common for bay windows to be used as
occupied spaces. Staff
is recommending removal of the term bay window in Section 3-12 of
the Zoning Ordinance. If
future situations arise, applicants can go before the Zoning Board
of Appeals for approval.
The Planning
Commissioners were in agreement that the term bay windows should be
eliminated from Section 3-12 of the Zoning Ordinance.
Used
Car Sales
Dan
informed the Planning Commission that the Zoning Board of Appeals
tabled the request for new to used vehicle sales in the C-3 district
pending the Planning Commissions discussion of the use and
ultimately the City Councils action.
Staff provided the Commissioners with some standards they
felt should be addressed and included in whole:
·
Special
Land Use
·
C-3;
Commercial Highway District Only
·
Located on a
Regional Arterial street as classified by the City of Grandville
Transportation Plan
·
Immediate
preceding use was for new vehicle sales
·
Lot shall be at least 3
acres in size with a minimum lot width of 250 feet
·
Front yard
parking setback shall be at least 20 feet
·
Only
permanent signage permitted, such as wall and ground signs
Steve
Maas stated he liked the direction staff was going with the
language.
The Planning
Commissioners were in agreement that staff should continue to create
draft language and bring it back for further discussion at the
December 1, 2004 meeting.
PUBLIC
COMMENT
1.
Chairman
Nicely asked if there were any public comments to be made.
There were none.
OTHER
BUSINESS
Chairman
Nicely asked if there was any other business to discuss.
Steve
Maas showed concern about what he considers a loop-hole in the
Zoning Ordinance language surrounding illegal use of signs and
applicants who have a valid application with the Zoning Board of
Appeals. Currently if
there is a valid application on file with the ZBA the illegal use
can continue until the ZBA acts on the application.
Staff informed the Commissioners that the process cannot
change at this time based on case law.
Motion
by Zondervan, supported by Leatherman to excuse Bob Poll from the
meeting. The motion
passed unanimously.
Motion by Maas, supported by Sherman to adjourn.
The motion passed unanimously.
The meeting adjourned at 9:12 p.m.
Debby Descheneau
Recording
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