Planning Commission Minutes
CITY OF
GRANDVILLE
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
FEBRUARY 4, 2004
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Poll, in the Council
Chambers at 7:00 p.m.
PRESENT :
Jodie Sherman, Dave Zondervan, Bob Poll, Virgil Leatherman, William
Timmer, Steve Maas and Craig Nicely
ABSENT :
None
ALSO PRESENT :
Ken Krombeen , City Manager
Dan Johnson , Assistant City Manager
Debby Descheneau , Personnel Assistant
Motion by Timmer, seconded by Maas to approve the agenda as
presented. The motion passed unanimously.
Motion by Nicely, seconded by Maas , to approve the minutes of
the January 7, 2004 meeting as presented. The motion passed
unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
1. Site Plan Review – 3367 28th Street –
Storage
Building
Dan Johnson reviewed the site plan comments and referenced Bob
Bruggink’s memo dated January 2, 2004 which suggested the City get
assurance of 1) a permit from MDOT for grading; 2) a copy of the
recorded easement for sewer and water from the adjacent property; 3)
a copy of written approval from the neighbor to allow excavation;
and 4) inspection to assure that surface runoff is properly
directed. Dan also noted that the applicant has proposed a
five-foot front yard parking setback with landscaping between the
parking area and the lot line.
Chairman Poll reminded the applicant of the unlikelihood that the
property could serve any other purpose other than what has been
proposed.
Craig Nicely asked if there were any special requirements for a
grading easement since the footing of the retaining wall is right on
the property line. Dan stated that it was not mentioned in Bob
Bruggink’s Memo of January 2nd, but that it could be reviewed under
the condition of “final utility connections are subject to
Department of Public Works and City Engineer approval”.
Virgil Leatherman reiterated his concerns for safe traffic flows
around this site. Chairman Poll agreed.
Motion by Zondervan, supported by Maas to approve the site plan
with following conditions: 1) Sidewalk shall be installed along
roadway at owner’s expense when determined necessary by the City 2)
comments by City Engineer dated January 2, 2004 shall be complied to
during development of this site 3) Separate permit required for
signage 4) Final utility connections are subject to Department of
Public Works and City Engineer approval The motion carried 5-2
(Poll and Leatherman opposed).
2. Discussion – Zoning Ordinance Review
Final draft language for Section 3-23, Walls and Fences; 3-20
(C)(1)(c), Temporary Permits, Seasonal Outdoor Sales of Agricultural
Products; Special Land Uses; and 4-13, Sales of Vehicles on
Residential Lots were presented to the Commissioners. It was
unanimously agreed by the Commissioners to accept the language as
presented and to set up a public hearing for the March 3, 2004
meeting.
Final draft language was also presented on Section 14, Signs on
Baseball Field Fences. There was much discussion on this portion of
the draft language.
Virgil Leatherman asked for clarification relative to the rules
placed on private vs. public schools, and which will be affected by
this new language, if not both.
Ken Krombeen clarified that public school system is exempt from
site plan reviews.
Chairman Poll thought it would not be appropriate for the signs
to advertise a business that could not be affiliated with the little
league. For instance, advertisement of house insurance.
It was suggested that the little league bring signs to the
Planning Commission annually for review.
Virgil Leatherman suggested that the ordinance only pertain to
the little league.
Chairman Poll suggested that for the first year the Planning
Commission keep the language simple and versatile. Leaving room for
changes next year when the Commissioners have a better idea of what
to expect with this new language in the sign ordinance. Steve Maas
agreed and also stated that it is difficult to image what a 4X8 sign
might look like on the fields, therefore making it hard to create
permanent language.
Pat Lyons and Larry Lind of the Grandville Little League spoke to
the Planning Commission about the types of sponsors they are
targeting, number of teams in the league, what the sponsorship funds
will be used for and the timeline for getting the signs produced.
All Commissioners agreed that staff should rework this language,
keeping it simple and open for amendments next year, and adding it
to the public hearing to be held on March 3, 2004.
Still pending language was presented on: Accessory Buildings ;
Building Height; Commercial Uses; and Model Storm Water Ordinance.
Accessory Building – it was agreed to have staff rework the
current language and bring it before the Commissioners at the March
meeting for review. It was suggested to expand the allowable size
as long as the building remained aesthetically pleasing.
Building Height – Fire Chief Veldhouse indicated that with
sprinkling restrictions and fire code it was not necessary for
maximum building heights.
Commissioners felt that 5 stories tall for residential and more
for commercial was appropriate. Commissioners asked that staff
bring updated language to the March meeting for review.
Commercial Uses – Dan mentioned that the DDA Master Plan is in
process and encouraged Planning Commissioners to attend. Until the
DDA Master Plan is complete, the commercial uses section of the
ordinance will remain as is.
Model Storm Water Ordinance – Ken, Mike Chesher and Dan meet with
Jim Smalligan of Fishbeck, who gave them good suggestions on how to
structure this ordinance. Staff is still working on finalizing this
language.
Chairman Poll confirmed that the public hearing for March will
consist of updated or new language for: walls and fences; temporary
permits, seasonal outdoor sales of agricultural products; special
land uses; and sales of vehicles on residential lots.
PUBLIC COMMENT
1. Chairman Poll asked if there were any public comments to
be made. There were none.
OTHER BUSINESS
Chairman Poll asked if there was any other business to discuss.
Dan Johnson asked the Commissioners if they would be in town for the
April meeting, which falls during spring break. There will be
quorum.
Motion by Leatherman, supported by Sherman to adjourn. The
motion passed unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 8:26 p.m.
Debby Descheneau
Recording Secretary
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